Dear Arizona Travel:

We are traveling from London 1 adult, 3 children- I do not want to drive. We would like to head for the Grand Canyon in late October -  maybe fly into Flagstaff and take the train. Then stay at a lodge, take a scenic flight and take the overnight mule trip. We then need to go back to Tucson where we plan to stay on a dude ranch. Can you help me build an itinerary?
Thanks,
Anne

Hi, Anne. I believe you’re in a position in which many potential Arizona visitors find themselves. It’s easy to misunderstand the geography of the area and be confounded by the array of available tours available at the Grand Canyon.  I’ll be honest and tell you that driving yourself yourself at least some of the trip is the most sensible way to go, but if you’re dead set against driving yourself, it’s not impossible to do it your way.

The Grand Canyon Railway does not depart Flagstaff; it leaves from Williams, which is 39 miles west of Flagstaff. Most people drive from Flagstaff to Williams, but you could take a taxi (try www.afriendlycab.com).  You can certainly stay in a lodge at the Grand Canyon rim, using the free shuttles to explore the South Rim itself, and take your scenic helicopter flight over the Grand Canyon from the South Rim area (flights depart from the airport near the Village of Tusayan. You’ll need a cab from the lodges at the Rim to go about 8 miles to the Grand Canyon airport helicopter pad for your flight.)

You will take the mule trip from the South Rim. Call Xanterra Parks & Resorts at (303) 297-2757 to reserve as soon as possible. Reservations can be made up to 13 months in advance and they fill up very, very quickly.

You may take the train back to Williams on a different day than your train trip up to the Grand Canyon rim, I believe up to 2 nights, 3 days between trips. If the Grand Canyon Railway folks give you the go ahead, note that the train goes back to Williams in the afternoon… just be sure to ask the mule trip folks if you’ll back back up at the Rim in time to catch the train back to Williams.

You’ll need to drive or take a cab back from Williams to Flagstaff and board your flight from Flagstaff, connecting through Phoenix to Tucson. As for transportation to the dude ranch in Tucson, I can only speculate that you’ll be able to take a cab from the airport to your final destination.

Thus, your itinerary might look something like this:

• Day 1:
  • Flight from (or connecting through) Phoenix to Flagstaff
  • Cab ride to Williams
  • Stay overnight in Williams (For your itinerary, I recommend the Grand Canyon Railway Hotel)
• Day 2:
  • Train ride up to the South Rim of the Grand Canyon
  • Explore Rim by shuttle and on foot
  • Cab ride to Grand Canyon Airport for a helicopter tour
  • Cab ride back to Grand Canyon Village at the Rim
  • Stay overnight in one of the Lodges (book up to 13 months in advance)
• Day 3:
  • Depart on Mule Trip from the South Rim
  • Stay overnight at Phantom Ranch at the bottom of the Canyon (book at least 13 months in advance)
• Day 4:
  • Return from the Mule Trip, back up the Rim
  • Take the afternoon train back to Williams
  • Cab ride to Flagstaff
  • Stay overnight in Flagstaff
• Day 5:
  • Flight from Flagstaff through Phoenix to Tucson
  • Cab ride to Dude Ranch (theoretically)

Hope this helps! Take care and enjoy this very full and exciting-sounding trip!

–ChristinaToo

Photo credit: JakesMomE on Flickr.com - CC BY 2.0

Dear Arizona Travel:
My children are ages 6, 14, 15 and 18. What tour(s) would be safe for all? What would you recommend? Thanks.
–Deborah H.

Dear Deborah,
Your kids are the perfect age for almost any tour. The only thing you probably wouldn’t be able to do is river rafting as I believe most companies require a child be at least 8 years old.

Where are you starting your trip from, Nevada or Arizona?

For your crew, I recommend the Grand Canyon Railway (www.thetrain.com) at the South Rim, any of the Grand Canyon helicopter tours or airplane tours (either from Las Vegas or the South Rim), a Jeep tour (there is a great one to the bottom of the Grand Canyon through Grand Canyon Jeeps Tours (www.grandcanyonjeeps.com) that also includes a stop at the fascinating Grand Canyon Caverns… it departs from the South Rim), or just some guided hiking at the South Rim. Try Canyon Dave’s (www.canyondave.com) for a really great educational tour that everyone will enjoy… it’s hiking and learning at the same time.

If you’re coming from Las Vegas, you might want to skip the South Rim and instead check out the West Rim (it’s a 3.5 hour drive versus a 5 hour drive) and take a walk out on the Grand Canyon Skywalk (www.grandcanyonskywalk.com). it’s the glass bridge that extends 70 feet out over the canyon rim and looks straight down through the glass 4,000 feet to the canyon floor below.

I always recommend trying to fit in one or two of the guided National Park ranger talks, too. They run almost all day for about an hour each, meet in several different spots at the South Rim and cover a range of different topics from wildlife to geology to art and history to astronomy. All are great and they’re completely free. Check out the Spring 2010 edition of The Guide – the National Park’s newspaper – for detailed times, descriptions and meeting places.

Hope that helps, Deborah! Have a great trip!

We got an email from a visitor to theCanyon.com, our Grand Canyon tours and hotels guide, today that totally struck a chord with me. I think Diana’s question is really common and who better to answer than another mom? Check it out and see if it will help you with your Grand Canyon vacation plans.

Dear Arizona Travel:

My fiance and I are getting married in Vegas in July 2010. From Vegas we want to visit the Grand Canyon. We only plan on spending 1 day there and we will have 3 small children with us. What is better? the North, South, or West Rim? Would you suggest renting a car and driving from Vegas or taking a tour? I am totally lost at what to do. Any and all help is appreciated. Thank you so much!
–Diana R

Read on for my answer:

Hi, Diana.  Best wishes on your upcoming marriage and congratulations to your fiance!

I am assuming you want to drive yourselves and are not considering taking a helicopter or air tour from Las Vegas to the South Rim.  If you hadn’t thought of flying, you might.  It’s a great way to minimize car-trip boredom, and get your tour and transportation in one.  It’s also the most time-efficient, as you can do one of these tours in half a day instead of a full day.

If you want to drive, start out early to maximize your time and the canyon and beat the heat.  As to where to go and what to do:

From Las Vegas, the West Rim is closest – only about 121 miles (2 hours) versus 278 (4.5 hours) to the South Rim.  The North Rim, while amazing and a great choice, is a longer drive-time from Las Vegas (only 282 miles, but over 5 hours) and with 3 small kids in the car, might prove to be just too long a trip.

The West Rim is where you’ll find the Grand Canyon Skywalk and several other Native American cultural sites.  While the Skywalk offers a unique view of the Canyon (a glass bottom sidewalk that juts out over the edge of the canyon, allowing you to look straight down) it might not be the most kid-friendly activity and while there are several small educational exhibits out there, too, the Skywalk is really the main attraction.  Also, Grand Canyon West is not actually a part of the National Park; it is on Hualapai Tribal land, so if you are going for a more informative, educational and “classic” visit to Grand Canyon National Park, I think the South Rim is a much better choice.  Further, the West Rim is rather expensive to visit… it’s at least $81.20 per adult and $61.16 per child ages 4 – 11. Children must be at least 4 to walk on the Skywalk.  There are extra fees (up to $35 total) just to enter the West Rim and ride the optional shuttle bus from the parking lot.

If you do choose the West Rim, I recommend U-Drive Tours (udrivetours.com) – they’re amazing. They not only package up all the Skywalk tickets and entrance fees to make things easy, but they include in their tour price the rental of a Jeep, SUV, Escalade, Prius or other fun cars that can handle the unpaved road that is the final 15 miles to the West Rim.  The owners are a super nice couple with young kids so they could be very helpful to helping you book the best trip to the West Rim possible. They know that area like the back of their hands and they operate / depart your tour from Las Vegas which is great for you.  They can also help round out the activities by recommending an add-on helicopter flight to the bottom of the canyon, horseback riding or a rafting trip.

The South Rim is the most visited for good reason.  The views are amazing, and the park service does a great job offering free ranger-led programs that are great for kids and will allow you to get the very most out of your 1 full day there.  It’s most crowded in the summer, though, so the trade-offs are big crowds at popular viewpoints and it can be difficult finding parking.

As the mother of an almost three year old, I suggest driving yourself to the South Rim vs. paying for a traditional bus tour for all of you.  I would like the flexibility to come and go in my own car, stop for bathroom breaks, keep “mommy” supplies in the car (change of clothes in case of potty accidents, snacks, etc.)  Plus, not knowing the age of your kids, you might want to bring strollers or a wagon as there is A LOT of walking at the Grand Canyon. Parking lots are usually about 1/4 mile from the rim itself, plus walking along the rim trail.  You can also ride the free hop-on-hop-off shuttle bus that runs around the South Rim from one viewpoint to the next… Definitely take advantage of that.

That’s not to say that tours aren’t a good idea… there are some FABULOUS choices once you’re at/near the South Rim.  Here are some of my favorite totally kid-friendly tour ideas at the south rim:
1) Ride the Grand Canyon Railway from Williams (an hour south of the park) to the South Rim of the park.  There couldn’t be a more relaxing, value-packed and kid-friendly way to spend a full day at the Canyon and they have different price points. www.thetrain.com
2) Take a Jeep Tour with Grand Canyon Jeep Tours… you can depart from either Williams or Tusayan (which is the town just outside the park entrance.)  They do a jeep ride to the bottom of the Canyon which is super cool. (www.grandcanyonjeeps.com)
3) Take a helicopter tour with any of the companies on theCanyon.com – they’re all great and you can’t go wrong. Two popular choices are MaverickHelicopter.com and Papillon.com (which also owns Grand Canyon Helicopters)

To find all these companies, check out theCanyon.com:

Grand Canyon Jeep Tours, U-Drive Tours and Grand Canyon Railway

Grand Canyon Helicopters, Papillon Helicopters, Maverick Helicopter and all helicopter tours from Las Vegas

Have a great trip and again, best wishes for your marriage!

–ChristinaToo

Tickets are now available for the Grand Canyon Railway’s enormously popular The Polar Express for its ninth season.  Based on the classic children’s book by Chris Van Allsburg, this Christmastime attraction will run in 2009 and early 2010 on selected dates from November 13, 2009 through January 9, 2010.  Tickets for The Polar Express sell out quickly, so be sure to reserve your tickets for 2009 now, available exclusively at 1-800-THE-TRAIN  or on the Grand Canyon Railway website, www.thetrain.com.

• November 13-15, 19-23, 25, 27-30, 2009
• December 2-7, 9-14, 16-23, 2009
• January 2-3, 8-9, 2010
  

  Santa visits with those who Believe on the Polar Express. Photo credit: Philms on flickr.com

The 2007-2008 run of the Grand Canyon Railway’s popular Polar Express has come to a close. If you missed it, don’t make the same mistake twice – book your 2008 tickets now. Grand Canyon Railway has made very-advance tickets available for the 2008 production of this classic holiday tale come to life.

2008 Polar Express dates:

• Nov 6-10
• Nov 12-17
• Nov 19-27
• Nov 30-Dec 1
• Dec 3-8
• Dec 10-15
• Dec 17-22

For reservations and more information, please visit
www.thetrain.com

Tickets are still available for the Grand Canyon Railway’s fervently popular The Polar Express in its seventh season.  Based on the classic children’s book by Chris Van Allsburg, this seasonal attraction runs this year on selected dates from November 2 through January 12, 2008.  The Polar Express is a fast sell-out so be sure to reserve your tickets for 2007 now, available exclusively at 1-800-THE-TRAIN  or on the Grand Canyon Railway website, www.thetrain.com.

What if you can’t get your desired 2007 dates?  Start planning for next year; 2008 Polar Express dates have been released:

• Nov 6-10
• Nov 12-17
• Nov 19-27
• Nov 30-Dec 1
• Dec 3-8
• Dec 10-15
• Dec 17-22

Photo source: www.thetrain.com Grand Canyon Railway Polar Express

A classic Christmas story comes to life on the Grand Canyon Railway’s Polar Express. Here, we’ve collected information about the Polar Express into a handy fact sheet. (Information source: www.thetrain.com)

What is The Polar Express?

Experience the magic of The Polar Express™, the classic children’s book by Chris Van Allsburg. The Polar Express comes to life when the train departs the Williams Depot for a journey through the dark and quiet wilderness for a special visit to the “North Pole.” Enjoy hot chocolate and cookies while listening to the magical story. Watch the joy on the children’s faces when the train arrives at the North Pole, where Santa Claus and his reindeer are waiting! Santa will board The Polar Express and hand each child their own special gift.

2007 Polar Express Schedule:

The Polar Express runs twice per evening – at 6:30pm and 8:00pm – on these 2007-2008 season dates:

November: 2, 3, 8 – 12, 14 – 19, 25, 26, 28 – 30
December: 1 – 3, 5 – 10, 12 – 22
January 2008: 4 – 6, 11, 12

Tickets – Pricing, Availability and How to Purchase

Pricing
Individual Tickets*
Adults: $26 Children (2 – 16): $14

*Individual tickets are available only after packages sell out for the requested evening. Please call 1-800-THE-TRAIN to check the status of packages and individual ticket sales. Please have multiple travel dates in mind, in case your first choice is not available.

Polar Express Package – Starting at $289 for two adults and two children includes:

• Polar Express train trip from Williams, Arizona to the North Pole
• One night at the Grand Canyon Railway Hotel in Williams next to the train depot
• Dinner and breakfast for each person at the Railway’s Max & Thelma’s Restaurant
• $10 retail certificate per adult (maximum $20 per package) for use in Railway Gift Shops

The package is $309 for two adults and two children on Fridays and Saturdays in November and December and from December 15 – 22.
Price is based on adult double occupancy and does not include tax. Options available for all family sizes!

Grand Canyon Railway Daily Ride Combination Package Discounts
Grand Canyon Railway is offering Polar Express package customers 50% off Coach Class or 50% off the cost to upgrade any class of service. This special offer is valid for travel December through February, excluding 2/15 and 16.

Availabilty – Tickets are still available for selected 2007 dates. Tickets sell out very quickly. TIP: Weekends closest to Christmas are the most popular dates. Weeknight and January dates are a good bet. Please call 1-800-THE-TRAIN to check availability. Please have multiple travel dates in mind, in case your first choice is not available.
2008-2009 Availability – Can’t get your desired 2007 dates? Advance reservations for the 2008 Polar Express season if paid in full. Click here for the 2008-2009 Polar Express schedule.

How to Purchase Tickets
Reservations can be made by calling 1-800-THE-TRAIN.

Where Does The Polar Express Start?

The Polar Express departs from the Grand Canyon Railway Depot in Williams, Arizona. Williams is located 32 miles west of Flagstaff off of Interstate 40. Take Exit 163 and drive south 1/2 mile to the Train Depot.

Where Does The Polar Express End?

Closely following The Polar Express book, this nighttime trip from Williams through the starlit wilderness to the “North Pole” features a special reading of The Polar Express while passengers enjoy hot chocolate and chocolate chip cookies. After arriving at the “North Pole” – a Christmas light village featuring an Aurora Borealis – Santa Claus and his reindeer welcome passengers before boarding the Polar Express for the return trip to Williams. Santa then boards the train and makes his way through the historic Pullman passenger cars, greeting every child and presenting each one with a special gift – a jingle bell signifying their belief in Santa Claus. The round trip journey is a little more than an hour in length.

What Should We Wear?
Why, warm, snuggly pajamas and bathrobes, of course! TIP: Dress warmly for Grand Canyon winter weather, as the evening low temperatures are often in the 20s.

Anything Else We Should Know?
You can help the Grand Canyon Railway give back to the community and make the holidays special for a less-fortunate child.

[Bring] a new, unwrapped toy to the Grand Canyon Railway Depot when you come to ride The Polar Express. All items collected are donated to Northern Arizona Law Enforcement.

More Information
is available at www.thetrain.com

A Colorado company operating concessions in the Grand Canyon National Park and in other states has agreed to buy the historic railway between the canyon and the town of Williams on Interstate 40.

Xanterra Parks and Resorts of Greenwood, Colo., Thursday signed a letter of intent to buy the 65-mile Grand Canyon Railway from owners Max and Thelma Biegert of Paradise Valley.

The purchase price was not disclosed.

When the Biegerts bought the railway in 1988 for about $15 million, it had been closed for about 20 years. The railroad dates to the late 1800s, when it was started to haul copper ore from a mine north of Williams. It later was extended to the Grand Canyon when Santa Fe Railroad and the Fred Harvey Co. opened El Tovar Lodge in 1905.

“We’re hoping by October to have signed a formal sales agreement that will be much more extensive than the letter of intent,” said Grand Canyon Railway President W. David Chambers.

At that time, the sales agreement goes to the National Park Service for review.

Xanterra President and Chief Executive Andrew N. Todd, in a prepared statement, said, “Our purchase of the Grand Canyon Railway is a logical progression as both companies are already in the business of helping to create unforgettable experiences for visitors to the Grand Canyon.”

The railway, its hotel, restaurant, gift shops and other facilities have nearly 500 employees. The railway’s annual ridership is more than 225,000.

Because of the potential for expansion of the railway’s business in Williams, Chambers said there is the likelihood for more employees, and there is no hint of any layoffs as a result of the pending sale. “Xanterra’s plans and our plans include continuing growth in the business, and I think that’s going to create more jobs, not eliminate jobs,” Chambers said.

Chambers called Xanterra “the largest national park concession operation in the United States.”

Xanterra has park concessions in several states besides Arizona, including Ohio, South Dakota, New York, Utah, Wyoming, Oregon and California.

When the Biegerts decided in March to sell their railway, about 200 potential buyers were contacted by their Phoenix investment bankers, Peacock, Hislop, Staley and Given.

That list was culled to Xanterra and two others, which the Biegerts and Chambers declined to name.

For more: Grand Canyon Railway 1-800-843-8724, www.thetrain.com, www.xanterra.com.

From The Business Journal of Phoenix – September 21, 2006

by Mike Padgett, Contributing Writer

Grand Canyon Railway

This line has been in existence since 1901 as a passenger route to the Grand Canyon, a significant improvement over the two-day stagecoach ride.

William “Bucky” O’Neill, a former mayor of Prescott who had mining claims at the Canyon, had initiated the building of the railway but died at the hands of a Spanish sniper with Teddy Roosevelt’s Rough Riders in 1898. For most of the line’s working life, it was owned by the Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe.

It was shut down in 1968 as increased automobile travel made trains seem obsolete.

“It stopped running, and no one seemed to notice or care,” says Heather Gearhart, public relations manager for the railway.

Max and Thelma Biegert cared. Two of the train line’s investors, the Biegerts put millions into refurbishing the cars and the locomotive and rebuilding the line. Passenger service was reinstated Sept. 17, 1989, 88 years to the day after the train first hit the rails.

“It’s been gaining momentum ever since,” Gearhart says.

Last year, 222,277 people, or 7 percent of the South Rim visitor population, rode the Grand Canyon Railway.

Late May through Labor Day, trains run twice a day: going north from Williams at 9 and 10:30 a.m., and returning at 3 and 4:30 p.m. The rest of the year, there is a once-a-day schedule. Each way takes two hours and 15 minutes. Train rides can be a day trip or combined with an overnight stay in Williams or at the Canyon.

High- and low-end fares

There are five classes of travel on the Grand Canyon Railway. Most affordable are Pullman coach fares at $60 for adults, $35 for ages 11-16, $25 for ages 2-10. A new coach class has been added: Budd coach adds $20 per fare for an air-conditioned car during the summer. The Pullman cars are 1920s vintage; the Budd cars were built in the ’40s and ’50s.

Top of the line is the Luxury Parlor class, which offers lounge seating, continental breakfast on the way north, and champagne and snacks on the return run. Parlor fares are $155 for adults and $130 for students ages 16 and older. Children ages 10 and younger are not allowed.

AAA offers member discounts.

Free soft drinks are included on all cars. There also is a café car that sells chocolates, snacks and minipizzas. On day trips, reserved box lunches are available for $8.88.

Special events

• One of the most popular events is the Polar Express, which runs Nov. 9 through Jan. 13. December weekends already are sold out, but weekdays and other weekends are not.

The Polar Express is a 30-minute trip to the North Pole from Williams, where Santa takes a break from work to greet young passengers. He boards the train and gives each child a jingle bell, hot cocoa and chocolate-chip cookies, then gets back to work at his toy factory. The return trip is a songfest of Christmas carols.

Single fares are $24 for adults, $12 for ages 2 to 16 and free for children younger than 2.

Packages are available at $269 for a family of four, including one night at the Grand Canyon Railway Hotel in Williams, dinner and breakfast at the hotel’s Max and Thelma’s Restaurant and a $10 gift certificate for each adult, good in the hotel gift shop.

• New this year is the Sunset Limited, which offers exclusive – only 150 passengers – evening tours to the Grand Canyon during September and October. The train leaves Williams in the afternoon and arrives at the Canyon in time for a motor coach to whisk passengers off for a spectacular view of the sunset.

The trip back includes musical entertainment, dancing, appetizers and a full bar with wine. Because the train arrives late into Williams, a package that includes an overnight stay is available for $249 per person. The train ride alone is $179.

Although the Grand Canyon Railway is up for sale, Gearhart says the owners are promising the quality will remain the same.

“The line will definitely continue,” she says.

Verde Canyon Railroad

The open-air train car almost is listing to one side as passengers scramble to see the bald-eagle nest clinging to the side of the canyon wall, a chick popping its head through the feathers of its mother’s wing. The little bird is barely a speck, but it commands the attention of everyone riding the Verde Canyon Railroad.

The scene is repeated as someone spots another eagle’s nest, then a blue heron fishing in the stream, and then again when those onboard strain to see signs of river otters.

On other days, passengers might be treated to the sight of brown bears, hawks, javelinas, 70 different waterfowl, or elk lumbering along the banks of the Verde River.

No matter how many times you ride these rails, there’s something different to see. And there’s always a new group of guests eager to explore another area of the state.

Whichever train you choose, you’ll enjoy a few hours of unequaled relaxation as you let the rails lull you into tranquillity while Arizona’s landscape flickers outside your window. Who needs television?

- Barbara Yost, Arizona Republic – June 18, 2006